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Jeremy Bentham

The Collected Works of Jeremy Bentham: The Correspondence of Jeremy Bentham, Vol. 11: January 1822 to June 1824

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Editor’s Notepg 323Editor’s Note3024To Étienne Dumont29 November 1823 (Aet 75)

  • 1823. Nov, 29th
  • To M. Dumont

  • 33 Canterbury Square
  • Southwark

Dear Sir

Yours of the 14th or 6th Oct. is but just received.2 Down to this time, I have been waiting in expectation of receiving a letter either from you or from your visitor; in consequence of that letter of mine, which I hope and presume you received from him.3 Him we4 have heard of in Letters to other friends.5 Taking for granted that some letter of his or yours must have miscarried, I was on the point of writing as I do now, when this letter of yours came. According to him, you were to come here not before next Spring twelve month; business which he mentioned detaining you; this of yours brings better news; giving us reason to hope that you will be here by the next Spring. No: upon second thoughts, and comparison of dates, it cannot be so. In my abovementioned Letter I gave you only a faint anticipation of the success of Preuves here; now I can tell you, that it is the subject of universal admiration. They say it is still better got up than any of your former publications. The Westminster Review was if I misrecollect not, among the topics on which you were instructed to examine my friend:6 No. 1 comes out for certain the 1st of the year;7 No. 2 will as certainly contain an article on Preuves, by a person who, I am told, is all admiration of it, and writes con amore; and who himself though as yet he has appeared but little as a public writer, is highly spoken of.8 We are not without hopes of getting mention made of it as early as the first of January, in a sheet which under some such terms as the Recommendation Sheets we propose to make a regular pg 324accompaniment to the Westminster Review.9 This Review, you I suppose know already has for its Publisher Longman & Co. 10 the most extensive publishers by far which as yet the world ever saw. Number of the Prospectus printed 100,000.11 What think you of this? To be sure it is very short: not containing more matter perhaps than one page of the last Letter my husband12 received from you.13 Number of copies of No. 1 no more than 2,000; or at most 3,000: but, in addition to these, there will be a stereotype of the whole. What think you of this? Their expression is[, there is] not a village in the three Kingdoms into which this little prospectus will not find its way, I have a copy in lithography, but I know not whether it will be worth while to make you pay postage for it, it is so insipid and lame. As a reason for the tameness, the Booksellers say, that by this means they gain support from several influential persons, from whom they would otherwise experience opposition. Constable of Edinburgh, who has one half of the Edinburgh, came to Longman's, full of alarm and wrath. But somehow or other he is pacified. Who do you think have the other half? Who but Longmans themselves. So that here they are counsel for plaintiff and Defendant at the same time. The Reviewers Reviewed will form a constant head. The history of that Review is, in No. 1, brought down about half way to the present time. It is by one of the two to whom you destined a copy of Preuves that the articles under this head are and will be written.14 Apropos of these copies.15 Upon my husband's shewing16 those lines of your letter to Bossange here, he said he was not in connection with Bossange frère, and on that account declined giving him17 the 2 copies for the 2 persons, but lent us18 2 for them and promised spontaneously to write about it to Bossange frère. N.B. We19 had bought 6 of him, but this I believe was20 mentioned in the letter that was delivered to you.21

I wish you could point out to us some mode of sending an odd Book or pg 325so to you: with two or three Demon pamphlets. A comical Book has lately made its appearance here under the title of 'not Paul, but Jesus' by Gamaliel Smith Esq.22 Inquiries who this Mr Smith is have hitherto proved fruitless. Some people will have it that it is by the pamphleteer;23 it is wonderful with what plausibility Mr Smith endeavours to persuade us that St Paul was constantly disbelieved by all the Christians of Jerusalem, as well as by the Holy Apostles. The Book contains 400 pages, with the addition of Tables, for the purpose of bringing under one view, the different accounts of St Paul's conversion and some other matters. Mr Smith says that all that is good and really belongs to what is called Christianity came from Jesus alone, and is in the four Gospels; and that all that has made so much discension, belongs to St Paul and to him alone. There are people here who say that this will make a new Sect, as if there were not Sects enough already. For my part I stick to the Church, as these matters are too high for me. But though you will not shake my faith, still I should be curious to know what you think of it, as you are of old a connoisseur in these matters.

If you were amused with those papers which you saw of my husband's, you will I hope be still more so by what he will have to show you should he live till you come. For since he wrote those papers, he has been making a little excursion he says into the field of Judicial Procedure; finding the matter of it so entangled in the matter of those other papers. You will see by the date that we have changed our abode since we had last the pleasure of hearing from you. He is so extremely busy just now; he begs you to excuse your receiving this scrawl from me, instead of a Letter from him.

  •                                         Believe me, Dear Sir
  •                                            Yours most sincerely,
  •                                               Martha Colls

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Editor’s Note
3024. 1 Dumont MSS 33 / III, fos. 382–5. In the hand of Colls. Addressed: 'A Monsieur / Etienne Dumont / À Genêve'. Postmark illegible. According to Colls's Journal (BL XXVII. 128), he took this letter to the post on 2 December 1823. A draft in the hands of Colls and Doane, and headed by Colls, '1823. Novr 29 / J.B. to M Dumont', is at UC, x. 132–5. Perhaps: in response to Dumont's criticism of tardiness (see Letter 3008), Bentham wrote and altered the draft to make it appear as if the letter was from Colls's mother, Mary Ann or Martha Colls, at her address in Southwark. Where Bentham altered the draft, the original wording is indicated in editorial footnotes.
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2 Presumably Letter 3008, dated 3 October 1823, and received 11 October 1823.
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3 i.e. Leicester Stanhope and Letter 3007.
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4 Draft MS orig. 'I'.
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5 Bentham had received news of Stanhope through the latter's correspondence with Bowring: see Letters 3011 & n. 2, 3014 & n. 2, and 3020 & n. 2.
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6 See Letter 3007.
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7 The first edition of the Westminster Review appeared on 24 January 1824.
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8 A review of Traité des preuves judiciaires did not appear in the Westminster Review, and the proposed reviewer has not been identified.
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9 No recommendation sheets have been traced.
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10 Bentham had mentioned Longmans as the publishers of the Westminster Review in Letter 3007 to Dumont, but in fact by this time, according to Bentham's earlier letter to W.E. Lawrence (Letter 3017), the journal was now to be published by Baldwin, Craddock, and Joy.
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11 For details of the prospectus see Letter 2996 n. 4.
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12 Draft MS orig. 'I'. Robert Colls was a flour factor and coal merchant.
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13 The last letter Bentham received from Dumont was Letter 3008.
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14 i.e. James Mill. According to Letter 3008, Dumont had arranged for three copies of Traité des preuves judiciaires to be sent from the Bossange brothers to Bentham, with one copy intended each for James Mill and John Herbert Koe. Dumont's arrangement appears to have been with the Paris branch of the firm, hence Bentham's difficulty with the London branch.
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15 The remainder of this paragraph in the draft is in the hand of Doane.
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16 MS draft orig. 'Upon shewing'.
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17 MS draft orig. 'me'.
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18 MS draft orig. 'me'.
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19 MS draft orig. 'I'.
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20 MS draft orig. 'I'.
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21 i.e. Letter 3007.
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22 i.e. Bentham's Not Paul, but Jesus, published under the pseudonym of Gamaliel Smith.
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23 Bentham perhaps had in mind Sydney Smith (1771–1845), ordained in 1794, and Canon of St Paul's from 1831, who at this time had published sermons and articles which had appeared in The Pamphleteer and the Edinburgh Review.
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